Hello Everyone,
Life still treating me very good. Sitting, no problem, Sex, no problem, getting up in middle of night to pee only once, no problem.
Do yourself a favor and get a wand and learn how to use it. Hey, we use a Theracane on ourselves, so why not use a wand ? I know, it is so weird the thought of inserting something into your rectum, well get over it because that is the ticket to getting better--along with massive stress reduction using meditation or the Byron Katie work or whatever in the world reduces stress.
Remember, if NoMopain can get better then so can you (my Physical Therapist told me that I was one of the worse cases she had seen in her 14 years of doing PT).
Take Care and Get Better !!
NoMoPain.
Another NoMoPain Update
Another NoMoPain Update
Age: 41 | Onset Age: 24 | Symptoms: You name it, I had it. | Helped By: Wand, Theracane, Cognitive Enquiry (Byron Katie) Stretches, The right kind of excercise | Worsened By: Stress, The wrong kind of excercise,
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Congrats on your sustained recovery.
Wondering, why would the wand work any better than my fingers, with my fingers I can feel the trigger points?
Which wand did you purchase?
Thanks,
Ss
Wondering, why would the wand work any better than my fingers, with my fingers I can feel the trigger points?
Which wand did you purchase?
Thanks,
Ss
Age:29 | Onset Age: 25.5 | Symptoms: Initially burning in prostate/perineum, burning in urethra, uncontrollable muscle contraction before urinating, dual ache in groin, left testicle pain, feeling of golf ball in rectum, soarness in rectum, and muscle spasms, now mainly very mild urinary tract inflammation, burning mildly after ejaculation, some days after physical activity involuntary mild muscle contraction before urinating | Helped By: .5 mg of Ativan, Aleve (naproxen), quercetin, alcohol in large quantities (vodka and soda), stretching, walking, internal massage the perineum area and levators. | Worsened By: sitting, weightraining, jogging, coffee, caffeine in general, alcohol bothered me at first, overdoing sex
Scooby,
With a wand you can bet much better leverage and can reach in places the fingers probably cannot.
The wand I have has a curve to it, much like a Theracane. I don't remember the brand name, but I will look it up and get back to you.
You know, when I first started to use the wand, I felt great anxiety, it felt weird and scary to insert a wand into my rectum. Well, I got over it, and now I joke to my wife that I got so used to doing this that I could probably watch TV, talk on the phone, clip the dogs nails, and insert the wand up my rectum all at the same time. But in the beginning I felt very nervous about it all but kept telling myself if this is what it takes to get better than G Dammit I will do it.
With a wand you can bet much better leverage and can reach in places the fingers probably cannot.
The wand I have has a curve to it, much like a Theracane. I don't remember the brand name, but I will look it up and get back to you.
You know, when I first started to use the wand, I felt great anxiety, it felt weird and scary to insert a wand into my rectum. Well, I got over it, and now I joke to my wife that I got so used to doing this that I could probably watch TV, talk on the phone, clip the dogs nails, and insert the wand up my rectum all at the same time. But in the beginning I felt very nervous about it all but kept telling myself if this is what it takes to get better than G Dammit I will do it.
Age: 41 | Onset Age: 24 | Symptoms: You name it, I had it. | Helped By: Wand, Theracane, Cognitive Enquiry (Byron Katie) Stretches, The right kind of excercise | Worsened By: Stress, The wrong kind of excercise,
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Delighted to read you're still making such good progress 
Not medical advice: Read my progress to date : Read about my W-A clinic visit
Age: 54 CPPS: 20 Yrs Recovery Status: 95% Symptoms: Pain around perineum Makes Worse: Tension, sitting Makes Better: Stretching, triggerpoint therapy, relaxation
Age: 54 CPPS: 20 Yrs Recovery Status: 95% Symptoms: Pain around perineum Makes Worse: Tension, sitting Makes Better: Stretching, triggerpoint therapy, relaxation
Hi Nomopain congratulations first of all.
I had some questions for you.
How long do you keep it in?
Do you just leave it there or move it around?
How often do you do this?
How long did it take you?
Thanks
I had some questions for you.
How long do you keep it in?
Do you just leave it there or move it around?
How often do you do this?
How long did it take you?
Thanks
Age: 24 | Onset Age: 22?? Always had frequency since I can remember I just mostly ignored it. | Symptoms: | Helped By: Relaxation, Internal PT | Worsened By: Frequent Masturbation, Stress
Achamasi,
I recommend finding a Physical Therapist that can instruct you on how to use the wand. The basic principle is the same as how a therane is used. There are a few different techniques such as static holding pressure, short stroking massaging back and forth over the Trigger Point \ Restricted tight area.
I am also happy to be able to fix problems on other areas of my body too. For example, I had a very painful elbow problem that the Doctor's years ago diagnosed as tendonitis. Now the problem is fixed because all it really was was a Trigger Point that responds very well to Trigger Point massage. It blows my mind how much people suffer in this world because of the supposed ignorance of Trigger points and how to massage them. I say "supposed" because I am very skeptical that the Pharmaceutical Industry probably has much to do with the ignorance of Trigger Points.
Can you imagine how much revenue they would lose if Trigger Point Massage became the 1st line of defense for Pain and Disability ? The Pharmaceutical industry has a great influence over what is taught in Medical Schools.
Best of Luck,
NoMopain.
I recommend finding a Physical Therapist that can instruct you on how to use the wand. The basic principle is the same as how a therane is used. There are a few different techniques such as static holding pressure, short stroking massaging back and forth over the Trigger Point \ Restricted tight area.
I am also happy to be able to fix problems on other areas of my body too. For example, I had a very painful elbow problem that the Doctor's years ago diagnosed as tendonitis. Now the problem is fixed because all it really was was a Trigger Point that responds very well to Trigger Point massage. It blows my mind how much people suffer in this world because of the supposed ignorance of Trigger points and how to massage them. I say "supposed" because I am very skeptical that the Pharmaceutical Industry probably has much to do with the ignorance of Trigger Points.
Can you imagine how much revenue they would lose if Trigger Point Massage became the 1st line of defense for Pain and Disability ? The Pharmaceutical industry has a great influence over what is taught in Medical Schools.
Best of Luck,
NoMopain.
Age: 41 | Onset Age: 24 | Symptoms: You name it, I had it. | Helped By: Wand, Theracane, Cognitive Enquiry (Byron Katie) Stretches, The right kind of excercise | Worsened By: Stress, The wrong kind of excercise,
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I see the wand that webslave posted, is that the one you recommend?
I have seen some that are a bit smaller at one end.
Let me know. I am considering this, as sometimes I think the straining I do to get leverage on the rectum tps is counterproductive. I know when Tim was releasing the same spots I had 100% relief for a day or two, I've had a hard time completely mimicking that. Thought this is worth a try.
Thanks,
Ss
I have seen some that are a bit smaller at one end.
Let me know. I am considering this, as sometimes I think the straining I do to get leverage on the rectum tps is counterproductive. I know when Tim was releasing the same spots I had 100% relief for a day or two, I've had a hard time completely mimicking that. Thought this is worth a try.
Thanks,
Ss
Age:29 | Onset Age: 25.5 | Symptoms: Initially burning in prostate/perineum, burning in urethra, uncontrollable muscle contraction before urinating, dual ache in groin, left testicle pain, feeling of golf ball in rectum, soarness in rectum, and muscle spasms, now mainly very mild urinary tract inflammation, burning mildly after ejaculation, some days after physical activity involuntary mild muscle contraction before urinating | Helped By: .5 mg of Ativan, Aleve (naproxen), quercetin, alcohol in large quantities (vodka and soda), stretching, walking, internal massage the perineum area and levators. | Worsened By: sitting, weightraining, jogging, coffee, caffeine in general, alcohol bothered me at first, overdoing sex
I have some information on the wand that I use:
The name of the product is called "Slender G Spot, 7 inch".
My Physical Therapist said she liked the design of this product to be used as wand because it has a curve to it much like a Theracane.
This product is a vibrator, but I use it as a wand -- I do not put batteries in the product since I only use it as a wand.
Here is how I have used this wand:
About once every 3 to 7 days (depending on how loose or tight my pelvic muscles are feeling) I use this for about 45 minutes. I use it with personal lubricant purchased at Walgreen's -- I warm the lubricant up for about 10 seconds in the microwave since the heat will help the muscles relax more.
I have used this on myself over one hundred times easily. In the beginnig there was anxiety and tension about using one of these, but the good news is that over time the anxiety goes away and the skill level keeps increasing.
My PT says I can quit therapy now but I insist on seeing her about once every 2 or 3 months. I openly admit that I am obsessive about still doing the internal work because I never want the pain to come back again. Even though I am generally pain free now, I can still feel the muscles really loosen up after I use the wand.
Developing the skill of using the wand on yourself may take some time. However, it is very empowering to be able to work the spots yourself. I know exactly which spots to work and where they are and the ability to feel the sensations and work them yourself are very very powerful.
I hope that answers all the questions.
Again, I recommend finding a Physical Therapist skilled in trigger point massage to assist in learning how to use this wand. It really is not that dificult to use the wand although the PT can help ease some of the initial anxiety about using.
Regards,
NoMoPain.
The name of the product is called "Slender G Spot, 7 inch".
My Physical Therapist said she liked the design of this product to be used as wand because it has a curve to it much like a Theracane.
This product is a vibrator, but I use it as a wand -- I do not put batteries in the product since I only use it as a wand.
Here is how I have used this wand:
About once every 3 to 7 days (depending on how loose or tight my pelvic muscles are feeling) I use this for about 45 minutes. I use it with personal lubricant purchased at Walgreen's -- I warm the lubricant up for about 10 seconds in the microwave since the heat will help the muscles relax more.
I have used this on myself over one hundred times easily. In the beginnig there was anxiety and tension about using one of these, but the good news is that over time the anxiety goes away and the skill level keeps increasing.
My PT says I can quit therapy now but I insist on seeing her about once every 2 or 3 months. I openly admit that I am obsessive about still doing the internal work because I never want the pain to come back again. Even though I am generally pain free now, I can still feel the muscles really loosen up after I use the wand.
Developing the skill of using the wand on yourself may take some time. However, it is very empowering to be able to work the spots yourself. I know exactly which spots to work and where they are and the ability to feel the sensations and work them yourself are very very powerful.
I hope that answers all the questions.
Again, I recommend finding a Physical Therapist skilled in trigger point massage to assist in learning how to use this wand. It really is not that dificult to use the wand although the PT can help ease some of the initial anxiety about using.
Regards,
NoMoPain.
Age: 41 | Onset Age: 24 | Symptoms: You name it, I had it. | Helped By: Wand, Theracane, Cognitive Enquiry (Byron Katie) Stretches, The right kind of excercise | Worsened By: Stress, The wrong kind of excercise,
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I did a search for a wand and found this thread. Nice how that works and I didn't have to start a new one.
I want to first say NoMoPain, you are my hero. I have heard of the "the wand" before but didn't realize it would help me get to the deeper tissue. Thought it was just for tired fingers. I dont seem to be getting anywhere with my fingers and my pain seems much deeper than that.
I actually had a nightmare of reading this post and finding out that the penis shaped one are the only ones that do the job right. I thought that was pretty funny when I woke up. From looking at the two pictures, I like the slender one better. It looks smaller. I would prefer it be pinky size though to be honest. I have used a couple other things for biofeedback and a electronic kegal thing. Both of those were a lot smaller it seems like.
Anyone use anything else before I order one of these?
I want to first say NoMoPain, you are my hero. I have heard of the "the wand" before but didn't realize it would help me get to the deeper tissue. Thought it was just for tired fingers. I dont seem to be getting anywhere with my fingers and my pain seems much deeper than that.
I actually had a nightmare of reading this post and finding out that the penis shaped one are the only ones that do the job right. I thought that was pretty funny when I woke up. From looking at the two pictures, I like the slender one better. It looks smaller. I would prefer it be pinky size though to be honest. I have used a couple other things for biofeedback and a electronic kegal thing. Both of those were a lot smaller it seems like.
Anyone use anything else before I order one of these?
Age: 26 | Onset Age: 20 | Symptoms: Used to be pain around the base of the penis, now I have golf ball in rectum feeling that can be very painful. | Helped By: kegal exercise/biofeedback (fixed ejaculation pain), antiinflamatory drugs, warm baths (intermediate term relief), hamstring stretching (very short term relief), the biggest being stress management | Worsened By: Stress, Standing for long periods, ejaculating used to make it worse, but not anymore
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I have not, but I have to think my fingers are better as I can target specific areas.
But, its worth a try. It worked for NoMo.
As for the size of it, if you are tensed down there it will be good to stretch the muscles out. Passing stools are usually larger than this wand.
Regards,
Ss
But, its worth a try. It worked for NoMo.
As for the size of it, if you are tensed down there it will be good to stretch the muscles out. Passing stools are usually larger than this wand.
Regards,
Ss
Age:29 | Onset Age: 25.5 | Symptoms: Initially burning in prostate/perineum, burning in urethra, uncontrollable muscle contraction before urinating, dual ache in groin, left testicle pain, feeling of golf ball in rectum, soarness in rectum, and muscle spasms, now mainly very mild urinary tract inflammation, burning mildly after ejaculation, some days after physical activity involuntary mild muscle contraction before urinating | Helped By: .5 mg of Ativan, Aleve (naproxen), quercetin, alcohol in large quantities (vodka and soda), stretching, walking, internal massage the perineum area and levators. | Worsened By: sitting, weightraining, jogging, coffee, caffeine in general, alcohol bothered me at first, overdoing sex
Hi All,
One point I wanted to make about using a wand. I am a married heterosexual man so I understand there is a psychological concern about what it means to use a wand. The most common stressful thought that I had went something like this:
"If other people found out that I do this wand work they would think I am gay and weird. "
I found that I had to reassure myself that using a wand is just like using a Theracane in the sense that both are simply stretching out tight muscle tissue and de-activating trigger points. I could certainly understand how other people could perceive wand work as "gay and weird". But for me, and probably most other men here, we would do just about anything to fix our Pelvic Pain.
I guess my main point is that doing wand work, or at least the thought of it can raise some anxious concerns -- "will others think I am gay and weird", "what if I hurt myself, etc.." I think that doing some kind of cognitive enquiry (Byron Katie, Albert Ellis etc..) can be extremely helpful in alleviating the effects of these stressful thoughts. I think just discussing the issue here on the website can be helpful too.
I truly believe that using a wand, Theracane, stretches, and some sort of cognitive therapy approach is the road to becoming pain free and healthy.
In short, doing work on the Mind and Body (they are both so interconnected anyways).
My wife used to do the internal work on me but I prefer the wand because I can hit the exact spots, hold them just right, and I do not have to be dependant on my wife or physical therapist. This is much more empowering.
Regards,
NoMopain.
One point I wanted to make about using a wand. I am a married heterosexual man so I understand there is a psychological concern about what it means to use a wand. The most common stressful thought that I had went something like this:
"If other people found out that I do this wand work they would think I am gay and weird. "
I found that I had to reassure myself that using a wand is just like using a Theracane in the sense that both are simply stretching out tight muscle tissue and de-activating trigger points. I could certainly understand how other people could perceive wand work as "gay and weird". But for me, and probably most other men here, we would do just about anything to fix our Pelvic Pain.
I guess my main point is that doing wand work, or at least the thought of it can raise some anxious concerns -- "will others think I am gay and weird", "what if I hurt myself, etc.." I think that doing some kind of cognitive enquiry (Byron Katie, Albert Ellis etc..) can be extremely helpful in alleviating the effects of these stressful thoughts. I think just discussing the issue here on the website can be helpful too.
I truly believe that using a wand, Theracane, stretches, and some sort of cognitive therapy approach is the road to becoming pain free and healthy.
In short, doing work on the Mind and Body (they are both so interconnected anyways).
My wife used to do the internal work on me but I prefer the wand because I can hit the exact spots, hold them just right, and I do not have to be dependant on my wife or physical therapist. This is much more empowering.
Regards,
NoMopain.
Age: 41 | Onset Age: 24 | Symptoms: You name it, I had it. | Helped By: Wand, Theracane, Cognitive Enquiry (Byron Katie) Stretches, The right kind of excercise | Worsened By: Stress, The wrong kind of excercise,
First class attitude :icon14:NoMoPain wrote:This is much more empowering.
Not medical advice: Read my progress to date : Read about my W-A clinic visit
Age: 54 CPPS: 20 Yrs Recovery Status: 95% Symptoms: Pain around perineum Makes Worse: Tension, sitting Makes Better: Stretching, triggerpoint therapy, relaxation
Age: 54 CPPS: 20 Yrs Recovery Status: 95% Symptoms: Pain around perineum Makes Worse: Tension, sitting Makes Better: Stretching, triggerpoint therapy, relaxation