Prostatitissurgery.com, Arnon Krongrad, Christopher Eden

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Re: Prostatitissurgery.com, Arnon Krongrad, Christopher Eden

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Was Krongrad (or one of a few others in the country/world) that does this the coach's doctor? Sorry I can't remember reading from the article other than treatment or possible prostatectomy.

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Age:43 | Onset Age:36 | Symptoms: First urinary and backside, golf ball feeling, now ok (no heavy exercise) . Major onset seemed to be with heavy coughing spell , felt "tearing" or nerve pain in rectum/prostate. | Helped By:Hot showers,sleep.Worsened By: Type A obsessiveness ... Stressing, what-if thinking, weights.
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Krongrad is one of the very few surgeons removing prostates for CP/CPPS. He either performed the op, or someone following his lead performed the op.

Prostatectomies for chronic prostatitis / chronic pelvic pain syndrome were virtually unknown in the US before Krongrad started promoting himself and his methods.
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More data on the coach. His uro was Lorie Fleck of Mobile, Alabama (the state right next to Krongrad's Florida). Whether she knows of Krongrad's technique is unknown. She does perform robotic-assisted laparoscopic prostatectomy, so some the connection to Krongrad is probable.
When the condition was at its worst, Crain said he would go to the morning practice, then head to his office, close the door, turn out the lights, try to relax and hope the pain would go away. Following afternoon meetings and practices, he went home and went straight to bed.

After a few weeks of antibiotic treatments that didn't alleviate the pain, he visited urologist Dr. Lorie Fleck, who diagnosed his problem and handled his treatment. Dr. Brian Bettencourt, one of the team's physicians, has also assisted in Crain's treatment and recovery.

"I get on the cell phone with one of the coaches during the game, and that lasted probably about five minutes because the more stress you have the worse this thing is," he said. "When you're talking on the phone and something happens and you're not there to fix it or try and fix it, it's stressful. So my wife took my cell phone away. They wouldn't even let me listen to the game in the hospital. I'd never missed a practice as a coach or as a player in my life."

Most of his prostate has been removed, Crain said, and all of the infection. Originally, doctors feared he might have prostate cancer, which his father had. "Thank God it wasn't cancer," he said.
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Re: Prostatitissurgery.com, Arnon Krongrad, Christopher Eden

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Odd, from onset Aug 2011, to theoretically operation treatment (and much better??) Oct 2011, to the April 2012 result. I've (we've) read of years of people on opiates, neurontin, trips to China etc for years. Surgery less than 2 mo from onset... and no letup from the ultra excitable cell phone screaming. I certainly hope they found something extraordinary... prostate 2x size, peeing green blood and cultures of Ebola, anthrax, big lumps imaged that could be perceived as cancer, etc. For something as poorly documented as our topic here to be done on anything else in mainstream medicine would be dismaying. (as if this isn't enough)

I don't think we have enough info but if it was indeed, oh look, two months of "prostatitis " and here's a poorly resourced paper from one doc, lets remove the prostate. -- Said the board certified urologist with 12+ years experience. (shivers)

They "thought" they had a case of cancer??? Dey taut dey taw a puddy tat???

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Age:43 | Onset Age:36 | Symptoms: First urinary and backside, golf ball feeling, now ok (no heavy exercise) . Major onset seemed to be with heavy coughing spell , felt "tearing" or nerve pain in rectum/prostate. | Helped By:Hot showers,sleep.Worsened By: Type A obsessiveness ... Stressing, what-if thinking, weights.
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Superuse, agree completely. If this was a case of run-of-the-mill CP/CPPS, overtreated with surgery, then this is a lawsuit waiting to happen IMO.

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People, final warning about this greedy, unethical clown who cuts out prostates to treat a CPPS, which is a neuromuscular condition. More reviews from ratemds.com

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Just to underline previous warning about this so-called "treatment" for CP/CPPS:

Medscape wrote: Normal Erection After Prostatectomy Is 'Rare'

Do Urologists Overestimate Return of Function?
Nick Mulcahy
April 14, 2015

After a radical prostatectomy, it is highly uncommon for a man to have erections like the ones he normally had before surgery, according to a study presented at the European Association of Urology 30th Annual Congress in Madrid.

The researchers reached that conclusion because only 14 patients in the 210-men study (6.7%) reported that their erections were the same before and after surgery.

"What this work shows is that having an erection as good as before surgery is a rare event," lead researcher Mikkel Fode, MD, PhD, from the Herlev Hospital in Copenhagen, Denmark, said in a meeting press statement.

There is "controversy" about the incidence of erectile dysfunction after surgery for prostate cancer, the researchers write in their abstract.

The controversy stems, in part, from the fact that the "most commonly used" questionnaire in this setting, the International Index of Erectile Function (IIEF), has not been validated in prostate cancer patients and is vague, the team notes.

To clarify this issue, Dr Fode and colleagues added their own question to the IIEF-5, which is an abbreviated version of the longer questionnaire: "Is your erectile function as good as before the surgery (yes/no)."

The questionnaire was mailed about 23 months after surgery. For men who completed the IIEF-5 questionnaire before surgery, the mean score was 21.7. After treatment, the mean score dropped to 9.9, with a lower score indicating more dysfunction.
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Christopher Eden is now a professor of urology (can you believe it?) in the UK. :facepalm:

He is still talking complete nonsense about CPPS:

CPPS is caused by "scar tissue":
"Most experts believe this is caused by scar tissue left after a bacterial infection has resolved — this can stimulate nerves which continue to send signals to the brain that there is inflammation,’ says Professor Eden.
I've never seen this theory before. He's completely pulled this out of his fundament. :sad2:

Prostate is "worth removing" for CPPS:
For some men, surgical removal of the prostate is worth considering as a last resort,’ adds Professor Eden.
This guy needs to be stopped.
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"Professor" Eden strikes again! After implying that all prostatitis is bacterial, he adds:
Eden wrote:However, getting the right antibiotic is key: ‘The problem with repeatedly prescribing short courses of antibiotics or the wrong type is that the bugs become resistant,’ explains Professor Eden. ‘When this happens, removing the prostate — the last resort — is the only choice. Patients are desperate to feel better and the operation is the way forward.’
This guy should be arrested and locked up. He's a disgrace to the medical profession. :facepalm:
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